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# Reply-to: users-jp$B!#(Bbeginners-jp $B$NJ}$O(B Reply-to $B$,>e=q$-(B
# $B$5$l$F$7$^$&$J$N$G!"(Busers-jp $B8~$1$N(B Reply-to $B$G$9!#(B


FreeBSD-applications-jp $B$K$D$$$F$N%"%s%1!<%H7k2L$r=87W$7$^$7$?!#(B
$B8=;~E@$r;}$A$^$7$F!"%"%s%1!<%H<u$1IU$1$O=*N;$7$^$9!#(B

$B=87W$O$+$J$j$$$$2C8:$G$9!#$b$&0lEY=87W$7$?$i0c$C$?7k2L$K$J$k(B
$B<+?.$O$"$j$^$9$,!"A4BNE*$J798~$,$o$+$l$P$h$$!"$H$$$&$3$H$G(B
$B$4MF<O$/$@$5$$!#(B

# $B$I$l$/$i$$$$$$2C8:$+$H8@$&$H!":G8e$K%"%s%1!<%HAm?t$r(B
# $B?t$($F$_$?$i(B 78$B!#$=$l$J$N$K(B (A1-1)+(A1-2)=83 (-_-;

$B%3%a%s%H$K$D$$$F$O!"KM$,E,@Z$G$"$m$&$H;W$o$l$k>l=j$K(B
$B?6$j$J$*$7$?$j!"JT=8$5$;$F$$$?$@$-$^$7$?!#(B

$B:#8e!"(Bapplications-jp $B$K$D$$$F$N5DO@$J$I$O(B users-jp $B$GB3$1$^$9(B
$B$N$G!"$40U8+$N$"$kJ}$O(B users-jp $B$K;22C$7$F$/$@$5$$!d(Bbeginners-jp $B;22C<T(B


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$B%"%s%1!<%H7k2LJ,@O(B:

$B$3$N%"%s%1!<%H7k2L$+$i!"(B
  $B%"%W%j%1!<%7%g%s$K$D$$$FOC$79g$&$3$H$N$G$-$k>l$,(B
  $B5a$a$i$l$F$$$k$,!"8=>u$O!"$=$N<{MW$K1~$($i$l$F$$$J$$(B
$B$H(B ($BKM$O(B) $BH=CG$7$^$7$?!#$^$?!"(BFreeBSD-applications-jp $B$,(B
$BBP>]$H$9$kHO0O$K$D$$$F$b;?F1$rF@$i$l$?$b$N$H(B ($BKM$O(B) $BH=CG(B
$B$7$^$7$?!#(B

$B$^$?!"(BML $BL>$K$D$$$F$O(B FreeBSD-applications-jp $B$OD9$9$.$k!"(B
$B$H$$$&@<$,B?$/!"KM<+?H$b:#2s$N5DO@$G!V(BFreeBSD-applications-jp$B!W$H(B
$B%?%$%W$9$k$N$,LLE]$@$H46$8$^$7$?$N$G!"(B
  FreeBSD-app-jp
  applications-jp
$B$N$I$A$i$+$,$h$$$N$G$O$J$$$+$H;W$$$^$9!#8D?ME*$K$O(B
  applications-jp
$B$r?d$7$^$9!#(B

 - $B2a5n!"$3$N$h$&$J%"%s%1!<%H$r<h$C$?Nc$,$J$$(B ($B$"$j$^$7$?$C$1(B?)
 - $BA4$F$N0U8+$rA*Br;h$H$7$F$"$2!"$=$l$KBP$9$k2sEz$rF@$?$o$1$G$O$J$$(B
$B$H$$$&M}M3$+$i!"$3$l0J>e$NJ,@O(B ($B<{MW$NNL$J$I(B) $B$OIT2DG=$H9M$($^$9!#(B


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Summary:
  Q1. FreeBSD-applications-jp $B$N?7@_$K;?@.$7$^$9$+(B?
    A1-1. $B;?@.$9$k(B                          77$BI<(B
    A1-2. $BH?BP$9$k(B                           6$BI<(B
  Q2. FreeBSD-applications-jp $B$,:n$i$l$?$i;22C(B (subscribe) $B$7$^$9$+(B?
    A2-1. $B;22C$9$k(B                          72$BI<(B
    A2-2. $B;22C$7$J$$(B                         4$BI<(B
  Q3. ML $BL>$O(B FreeBSD-applications-jp $B$GE,@Z$@$H;W$o$l$^$9$+(B?
    A3-1. FreeBSD-applications-jp $B$G$h$$(B    63$BI<(B
    A3-2. $BE,@Z$G$J$$!#(B                      15$BI<(B


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$B8DJL$N0U8+(B:

Q1. FreeBSD-applications-jp $B$N?7@_$K;?@.$7$^$9$+(B?
  A1-1. $B;?@.$9$k(B
    77$BI<(B

  $B$3$l$^$G$K$J$+$C$?OCBj$N<u$1;.$K$J$C$F$[$7$$(B
    - FreeBSD $B%f!<%6$,$I$N$h$&$J%"%W%j%1!<%7%g%s$rMxMQ$7$F$$$k$+798~$,$o$+$k!#(B
      $BNc$($P(B sendmail vs qmail , wu-ftpd vs proftpd, tcsh vs zsh  $B$J$I!"(B
      $B$*$b$7$m$=$&$JOCBj$,E83+$5$l$k$+$b!#(B
    - $BF|K\8l$G%+%P!<$5$l$F$$$J$$%"%W%j%1!<%7%g%s$J$I$H(BFreeBSD$B$H$NAj@-$d$i$=$NB>$H(B
      $B!V3Z$7$=$&$JOCBj!W$,=P$=$&(B
    - $B4{$KCN$C$F$$$k%"%W%j%1!<%7%g%s$N$3$H$G$"$l$PB>$G$bC5$9$3$H$,=P$-$=$&$@$,!"(B
      $BJXMx$J%"%W%j%1!<%7%g%s$r8+$D$1$?$j$9$k>l$,$"$l$PNI$$(B  
    - ports/packages $B$K$^$@4^$^$l$F$$$J$$%"%W%j%1!<%7%g%s$bBP>]$K$7$F$[$7$$(B
    - $B=>Mh$@$H(B FreeBSD $B$NOCBj$G$J$$$+$i!"$HEj9F$r95$($?$j!"$"$k$$$OEj9F$7$F$b!"(B
     $B!V(BFreeBSD$B$NOCBj$G$O$J$$$G$9$,!"!"!W$H62=L$9$kJ8$r$D$1$?$j!"$"$k$$$O(B
      $B$J$8$i$l$?$j!"$H$$$C$?$3$H$,2r>C$5$l$k(B
    - $B!V$=$l$C$F(BFreeBSD$B$NOCBj$+(B?$B!W$H8@$o$l$k$h$&$JOCBj$r(B users-jp $B$K?6$k$N$,(B
      $BNI$/$J$$$H$5$l$F$$$?$,!"$=$&$$$&OCBj$b07$($k$h$&$J(BML$B$G$"$C$FM_$7$$(B

  $B%"%W%j%1!<%7%g%s$K$D$$$FOC$7$"$&>l$,$[$7$$(B
    - OS $B$H$$$&$N$O4D6-$G$"$C$F!"<B:]$K%f!<%6$,;HMQ$9$k$N$O%"%W%j%1!<%7%g%s$G(B
      $B$"$k!#$h$j%f!<%64s$j$N%"%W%j%1!<%7%g%s$K$D$$$FO@$:$k>l$,$"$k$H$"$j$,$?$$$G$9!#(B
    - $B$3$N(BML$B$,=PMh$l$P!"%"%W%j%1!<%7%g%s%l%Y%k$G$bLdBj$d3hMQK!$J$I!"(B
      $BB?$/$N>pJs$r6&M-=PMh$k!#(B
    - $B%"%W%j@lMQ$N(BML$B$KF~$k$[$I$G$b$J$$$1$I!"%"%W%j$N@_Dj$K$D$$$F$A$g$C$HJ9$-$?$$!"(B
      $B%H%i%V%k$,H/@8$7$F$=$N860x$,%"%W%j$J$N$+(B FreeBSD $B8GM-$N$b$N$J$N$+H=JL$G$-$J$$(B
      $B$H$-$J$I$KM-MQ(B
    - OS $B$,%$%s%9%H!<%k$G$-$F$b%"%W%j%1!<%7%g%s$,;H$($J$1$l$P2?$K$b$J$i$J$$!#(B
      $B$=$N$?$a$K:#$^$G$?$/$5$s$N=q@R$N9XF~$,I,MW$@$C$?(B ($B$N$G!"$=$&$$$&OCBj$r(B
      $B?6$l$k(B ML $B$,M_$7$$(B)
    - ports/packages $B$G$O!"(Bpatch $B$,Ev$F$i$l$F$$$?$j!"%G%#%l%/%H%j9=@.$,(B
      $BJQ99$7$F$$$?$j!"(BFreeBSD $B$JJ}$7$+M}2r$G$-$J$+$C$?$j$9$k$3$H$bB?$$(B
    - $BJ#?t$N%"%W%j%1!<%7%g%s$rAH$_9g$o$;$FF0:n$5$;$k$H$-$K!"2?$,0-$/$FF0$+$J$$$N$+(B
      $BH=CG$,$D$+$J$$>l9g$,$"$k!#$=$s$J>l9g$KM-8z$J%a!<%j%s%0%j%9%H!#(B

  $B4XO"(B ML $B$K;22C$9$l$P!D$H$$$&0U8+$KBP$7$F(B
    - $B;HMQ$7$F$$$k%"%W%j%1!<%7%g%sA4$F$N(B ML $B$K;22C$9$k$HKDBg$J?t$K$J$j$^$9$7!"(B
      ML $B$,B8:_$7$J$$%"%W%j%1!<%7%g%s$bB?$/B8:_$9$k(B
    - $B;?@.$@$,!"(Bapache$B!"(Bemacs$B!"(BGNOME $B$J$I$rBP>]$K$9$k$N$OH?BP!#(B
      $B$=$l$>$l$N%"%W%j%1!<%7%g%s$KF|K\8l$N(BML$B$,B8:_$9$k$?$a!"$=$A$i$N(BML$B$G(B
      $B<ALd$7$?J}$,E,@Z$J2sEz$,F@$i$l$k$7!"%f!<%6B&$G$N%"!<%+%$%t$N4QE@$+$i$b(B
      $B%8%c%s%kJ,$1$7$d$9$$$?$a$G$9!#F|K\8l(BML$B$,B8:_$7$J$$$b$N$G$"$l$P;?@.!#(B
    - port $B$N?t$@$1!"(BML $B$,$"$k$H$$$&OC$OJ9$$$?$3$H$,L5$$!#B>$N(B OS $B$G3+H/$5$l$?$j(B
      $BF0$$$?$j$9$k$b$N$,$=$N$^$^!"(BFreeBSD $B$G$bF0$/$H$O$$$($J$$!#(B
    - $B%^%$%J!<$J(B application $B$@$H!";22C?M?t$,>/$J$/>pJs8r49$,$G$-$J$$!#(B
    - $B8DJL(B application ML $B$@$H!"(BLinux $B$K0MB8$7$F$$$kItJ,$J$I$,=P$FMh$?>l9gM}2r$G$-$J$$!#(B

  $B$=$NB>(B
    - $B8=:_(B Gnumeric $B$,5/F0$9$i$;$:!"?t%v7nDdBZ$7$F$$$k!#<+J,$J$j$KD4$Y$F$O(B
      $B$$$k$,!"(BFreeBSD ($B$N(Bports)$B$+(B Gnome $B$+$N@Z$jJ,$1$,$G$-$J$$$N$G<ALd$9$k$N$K(B
      $Bm4m0$7$F$$$k(B
    - $B?M$,J,;6$9$k$N$O$h$/$J$$$,!"$=$b$=$bBP>]$,B?<oB?MM$@$+$i!#$"$kDxEY$O;EJ}$,$J$$!#(B
    - $B85Mh(B FreeBSD $B$r;HMQ$7$?$$$,!"%"%W%j%1!<%7%g%s$N%$%s%9%H!<%k$N$70W$5$G(B
      $B%/%i%$%"%s%H5!$r(B Linux $B$K$7$F$$$k!#$G$b!"$G$-$l$P(BFreeBSD$B$r;HMQ$7$?$$!#(B
      $B$=$N$?$a$K$O!"$"$C$?J}$,$$$$$H;W$$$^$9!#(B

  A1-2. $BH?BP$9$k(B
    6$BI<(B

  - $B$=$N$h$&$JOCBj$O(B users-jp $B$KEj$2$l$P$h$$(B
  - $B%"%W%j%1!<%7%g%s8DJL$N(B ML $B$O$9$G$KBt;3$"$k!#(BApache$B$N$3$H$O(B Apache $B$N(B
    ML $B$rMxMQ$7$?J}$,!"B?$/$NM-MQ$J>pJs$r=8Ls$7$FF~<j$9$k$3$H$,$G$-$k$@$m$&(B
  - $BLdBj$H$J$C$F$$$k$N$,%"%W%j$J$N$+$=$&$G$J$$$N$+$NH=CG$,Fq$7$$!#L@$i$+$K(B
    $B%"%W%j$H$$$&$b$N$O$$$$$,!"HyL/$J$b$N$b$"$k$H;W$&!#L@$i$+$K%"%W%j$G$"$k$H(B
    $B$$$&$N$J$i$P!"3F%"%W%j%1!<%7%g%s$4$H$N(B ML $B$G9T$&$Y$-$G$"$k!#8=:_$N(B users,
    beginners$B$N%a!<%kN.NL$G$"$l$P%"%W%j$NOCBj$b=P$F$-$F$b$=$l$[$I6l$G$O$J$$!#(B
  - $B3F%"%W%j%1!<%7%g%s$NOCBj$O!"3F%"%W%j%1!<%7%g%s$N%3%_%e%K%F%#$,Ds6!$9$k(B
    ML $B$G9T$&$N$,6Z!#(B
  - $B!V%"%W%j%1!<%7%g%s!W$H$$$&3g$j$OOHAH$_$H$7$FBg$-2a$.$k!#(B
     $BNc$($P!"(BApache $B$NOCBj$O(B FreeBSD-net-jp ML $B$G9T$&$Y$-$G$O$J$$$+(B? 
     GNOME $B$NOCBj$O(B XFree86 $B$N(B ML $B$r?7@_$7$F9T$&$Y$-$G$O$J$$$+(B?
  - $B4{$K(B UNIX Application ML (http://kelp.chibi.ne.jp/bsdap/) $B$,$"$k(B



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Q2. FreeBSD-applications-jp $B$,:n$i$l$?$i;22C(B (subscribe) $B$7$^$9$+(B?
  A2-1. $B;22C$9$k(B
    72$BI<(B

  - ($B;?@.$O$7$J$$$,(B) users-jp $B$N(B clone $B$,CB@8$7$?$H9M$($i$l$k!#(B
    $B8=;~E@$G(B users-jp $B$r(B subscribe $B$7$F$$$k$N$G;22C$9$k(B
  - ($B;?@.$O$7$J$$$,(B) users-jp$B$KN.$l$F$$$?>pJs$,!"$=$A$i$KN.$l=P$9$N$G(B
    $B$"$l$P!";22C$7$J$$$H0UL#$,$J$/$J$k(B

  A2-2. $B;22C$7$J$$(B
    4$BI<(B

  - $B;~4V$,<h$l$J$$$N$G!"8=;~E@$G$O;22C$7$J$$$H8@$&$h$j$O!"=PMh$J$$(B
  - $B>pJs<}=8$,I,MW$J(B application $B$N(B ML $B$K$O$9$G$KF~$C$F$$$k$+$i(B


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Q3. ML $BL>$O(B FreeBSD-applications-jp $B$GE,@Z$@$H;W$o$l$^$9$+(B?

  A3-1. FreeBSD-applications-jp $B$G$h$$(B
    63$BI<(B

  A3-2. $BE,@Z$G$J$$!#(B
    15$BI<(B

  $B0J2<!"Be0F$H$=$NM}M3!#(B
    FreeBSD-appli-jp 3$BI<(B
    FreeBSD-app-jp   3$BI<(B
    FreeBSD-apps-jp  2$BI<(B
    FreeBSD-apl-jp   $B0J2<!"(B1$BI<(B
    FreeBSD-appusers-jp
    FreeBSD-commmands-jp
    FreeBSD-ports-users-jp
    applications-jp

  - FreeBSD-applications-jp $B$OD9$9$.(B
  - nifty $B$G<u?.$7$F$$$?>l9g(B Subject $B$,D9$$$HESCf$G@Z$l$k(B
  - FreeBSD-applications-jp@jp.FreeBSD.org
    ^^^^^^^              ^^ ^^ ^^^^^^^
    $B$H$$$&%"%I%l%9$O!"C18l$,=EJ#$7$F$$$kItJ,$,$"$j!"D9$C$?$i$7$$!#(B
  - $B!V(BML $B$G$"$k!W$H$$$&$3$H$,%"%I%l%9$+$iA[A|$G$-$J$$$N$ONI$/$J$$!#(B
    $B$3$N>l9g!"%"%I%l%9$O(B applications@ml.jp.FreeBSD.org $B$d(B
    applications-ML@jp.FreeBSD.org $B$N$[$&$,NI$$$N$G$O$J$$$+!#(B
  - Subject $B$,(B [FreeBSD-applications-jp ?????] $B$H$J$C$F!"(BMUA $B$K$h$C$F$O(B
    $BI=<(OH$K$*$5$^$i$:(B Subject $B$O<B<A8+$($J$$$N$HF1$8!#(B
  - ($B$b$7(B ports,packeages$B$K8BDj$9$k$J$i(B) FreeBSD-portsusers-jp $B$NJ}$,(B
    $B$h$jE,@Z$G$O(B?
  - ML $BL>$K(B FreeBSD $B$NL>$r4'$7$F!"(BFreeBSD $B$K8BDj$7$F$7$^$o$J$$J}$,$$$$(B


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  -$B!V2?$,(B application $B$+(B?$B!W$H$$$&OC$O=P$F$/$k$@$m$&$,!"Dj5A$i$7$$Dj5A$O(B
    $B$[$H$s$I$G$-$J$$$+!"$b$7$/$OHO0O$,$H$F$b$;$^$/$J$C$F$7$^$&$H;W$&$N$G!"(B
    $BDj5A$OFC$KITMW!#(B
  - $B5$3Z$KOC$;$k(B chat-jp $B$bM_$7$$(B (2$BI<(B)
  - $B1?MQ$r;O$a$FFbMF$,M=A[0J>e$KB?MM2=$7$?>l9g$O(BML$B<+BN$r:YJ,2=(B
    $B$9$kI,MW$,=P$F$/$k$H;W$&!#(B
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